Charlotte Daniels & Pat Webb – Nobody’s Business
I love this record. Although I don’t know much about it. Apparently both Charlotte Daniels & Pat Webb were married and kinda big in the early ’60s urban folk music scene but I can’t find too much info about this particular album. I think this is the only collaboration they did and it was a one-off afternoon recording type thing, just picking songs off the top of their head to play together, which is what makes this so awesome.
It’s not especially folky. They play a mix of stuff, a lot of old blues, traditional ballads, and upbeat almost rockabilly tunes. Daniels has a fantastically order cialis india rich voice and Webb’s guitar picking is spot on. I can’t quite explain why this record does it for me, though. I’m pretty sure it has to do with the selection of songs and Daniels’ voice, but there’s something mysterious about it that makes it endlessly enjoyable.
This record, and dozens more, belonged to a family member who recently died. They were given to me to digitize so the rest of the family could listen to them. I plan on sharing some of the most interesting ones on AGB as well, so keep an eye out for old folk records popping up under the OOPs category.
Download Charlotte Daniels & Pat Webb
This album is my new favorite thing. The songs get stuck deep in my head.
ps. hey Justin, do you think it is obvious to everyone that the bottom words in green are a link to the full length album? I probably would have missed it if I wasn’t looking specifically.
Thanks a thousand. Such a lovable record, and unexpected.
Is this currently issued ? As a teenager I knew Pat Webb for a few years – was close to his son who gave me guitar lessons. Pat and Charlotte were husband and wife. I never met her, she passed away a few years before I met Chris and Pat. I woud love to hear this. Btw enjoy your other reviews thx.
Thanks for the kind words, Isaiah. That’s so amazing that you new Pat! Sadly, I’m pretty sure this record is long out of print, however you can download it using the link at the bottom of the review. Hope that helps.
I love the amazing originality of the music from Charlotte and Pat’s son, Christopher Webb. I have his CD, Long Gone Seasons. Any idea what he is up to now?
Sorry, Sara. I don’t have any idea what Christopher is doing lately. I haven’t heard that CD, though. I’ll have to check it out!
Thank you so much for the link! I’ve been looking for this album forever. Charlotte and Pat were friends of my mother. I remember when I was little, they would visit and sit around our kitchen playing. She had such a wonderful voice.
Pat and Christopher Webb are friends of mine and they are in Brown County, Indiana. I recently finished a documentary, funded by The National Endowment for the Arts and The Indiana Arts Commission, entitled Artists Interrupted: Brown County Artists Challenged by Illness and Injury. Both Pat and Chris were subjects of the project. You can visit the website at
ArtistsInterrupted.com
for more information about them and my project.
They are both remarkable artists and still perform. Please contact me if you would like more information about these fine musicians. Pat has several CDs and Christopher has one CD.
Susan W. Showalter
Artist/Writer/Photographer
GoatHillStudio@aol.com
HandmadeinBrownCounty.com
My college roommate and bandmate played the album frequently before dropping out of Dartmouth to attend music school (Berklee) in Boston, and took it with him. I remember Charlotte Daniels’ voice and several of the songs as hauntingly beautiful and elegiac. The anthemic “Copper Kettle,” especially, is memorable for capturing the indomitable American spirit of resistance to government intrusion that we need to rekindle more now than at any time in our history. Vastly underappreciated then and now, if the folk era had an underground cult classic, this album was it. Thanks for bringing it back onto the radar screen!
This is my aunt and uncle. Both now gone to glory…Pat just yesterday, August 23, 2013.
Thank you for sharing, Tracy. You have my sincerest condolences.
From 1961 to 1965 Charlotte and her husband and Pat lived in Rockville, md. I knew them quite we’ll and attended their concerts and shows in the DC area. On nov 22, 1963 I spent the evening with Charlotte crying together over Kennedy’ death in her house. Those were the days . I have many memories…loved those guys
I’m sorry to that Pat passed away. We were good friends about 1969/70. Pat was a friend of some friends of mine in Hollywood, Mike and Joan McCarthy, at the time and for a bit ran the Monday night Hootenanny at Doug Weston’s Troubadour. My memories of him are as a kick ass mandolin player. Mike McCarthy is long gone. but Joan is in Oregon. Every so often we would wonder what ever happened to Pat. Now with a few minute on Google I found out. We never knew Charlotte, only of her. I’m lucky to have that album in my collection. I now only wish that I had found this string earlier and could have possibly contacted Pat. In any event the search is over sad to say.
Jerry Scott, did Charlotte ever mention having twins before she married and putting them up for adoption?
Thank you,
TWP
Knew them both from Café Lena in Saratoga Springs NY 1963 to 66 great duo.
I loved this man. we played together in St. Louis at the Laughing Buddha coffee house and the Left Bank–a bar in Gaslight Square. Not only was Pat a guitar wizard he was a genius at saying the most profound things in the the most stripped-down, low-key, folksy manner. A one-of-a-kind, Pat. I’ve thought of him often through the years. I worked under the name, Tom Everett, in those days. Then it was Tyler Everett…long story. Thanks for the PW news.
I loved this man. We played together in St. Louis at the Laughing Buddha coffee house and the Left Bank–a bar in Gaslight Square. (1961) Not only was Pat a guitar wizard he was a genius at saying the most profound things in the the most stripped-down, low-key, folksy manner. A one-of-a-kind, Pat. I’ve thought of him often through the years. I worked under the name, Tom Everett, in those days. Then it was Tyler Everett…long story. Thanks for the news about Pat. As far as I know, he was one of the best at every thing he did and I’ve always wanted to be more like him…
I was an Army PFC stationed at Ft Leonard Wood, Mo. in the early 1960s. Used to drive down to St Lewis, Mo. to Gas Light Square most weekends just to hear Charlote and Pat play and sing bars. They signed and gave me a “preview copy” of their album–still have it. What a big, beautiful voice Charlotte had ; what perfect finger picking on Pat’s guitar. I can still hear them. Still pick and sing some of those songs myself, and always remember them.
1)Yes, I’ve seen this. Can you imagine being the son of these two after seeing it. The comments bring joy and a few questions. The Internet. Endlessly entertaining. Really. I wish I knew you all.
2) It’s Mother’s Day…..
my Mom’s voice.
Some folks don’t even have a recording. I have a few. The one I don’t have is her singing Irene, Goodnight. I remember it perfectly, though. The texture of her voice. Singing me to sleep. I was her boy. I was her child. A part of me will forever be.
I knew Charlotte Daniels in the early 50’s when she lived in Toledo, Ohio and was married to Joe Daniels. She and I plus some others took guitar lessons from Sandy Paton and learned a lot of folk songs from Sandy – many of them showing up on the record Charlotte made with Pat Webb. Charlotte and Joe moved to Washington, DC and I made “a pallet on their floor” when I got a job in Northern Virginia and needed a place to stay. Through them I met a lot of folk singers in the DC area, including Howie Mitchell who introduced me to the mountain dulcimer and later to the hammered dulcimer. Fond memories.
Pat was nice man and I was fortunate to hear him and study with him at the guitar institute of Indianapolis. Christopher Webb and the Beaten Poets “long gone season” remains, after 20 years of listening, one of my favorite CD’s. Beautiful melody, haunting lyrics and amazing accompaniment.
Chris, I have a recording that Daddy made of Aunt Charlotte singing Irene, Good Night. We were little kids. Kelly may not have been born yet. You can hear Uncle Pat, and my Mom and Dad singing in the background. It is one of my treasured possessions. It is now on cassette…hoping to have some whiz kid put it on CD. I also have the original “reels”. Get in touch!
Hello folks, I am a librarian at the Central Library in Indianapolis, and I’m trying to get new copies of all of Pat Webb’s CD’s to add to our Indianapolis Special Collections Room. I think I’ve found sources for all of them but Mad Dog Wine. Any suggestions, anyone?
I too new Pat and Charlotte and you, Chris. I lived next door to you in Indy. I was your “drum teacher” lol. You were only about 6 then. Ha! What memories. I loved y’all so much
I just saw John’s comment and I wanted to thank him for saying such a nice thing about mine and the Beaten Poets first album. I’m glad that record resonates with a few folks even after that length of time.
I wish I could thank you directly, John.?
Anti-Gravity Bunny:
I knew Pat Webb during the mid-to-late 1970’s back in Indianapolis and I even sold him his touring PA system back then, which consisted of a pair of (then-new) BOSE 802 speakers, a BOSE 1800 power-amplifier and a Sennheiser MD421 microphone. Pat liked this system because it was very compact, easy to set-up and easy to carry around and fit into his vehicle.
Since I was a budding audio engineer at that point-in-time, I used to also go to several of his “LIVE” shows and I would both run his sound – AND – record the show!!! So…..here it is basically 45-years later and I >> STILL << have the various audio tapes that I had recorded Pat Webb onto!!! These tapes consist of both some 7" reels (45-minutes) and 10-1/2" studio reels (90-minutes). The shows I had recorded that standout the most is one that was recorded at "The Hummingbird Cafe" in the Talbot Village area just off of 10th Street in downtown Indy on New Year's Eve night. The other show that I remember recording was at a short-lived "Concert Hall" called "Max's Concert Club", which was a type of "dinner theater" environment where the audience sat at tables which were located right next to the stage. I had also installed another BOSE sound system in there, which Pat liked!!! Pat had performed with Tennessee Ernie Ford, Jr. that evening when I had recorded him.
Another location where I had recorded both Pat Webb and Bill Wilson several times was at The Zionsville Theater up there in Zionsville, IN. Of course, I have no idea if any of these places still exist or not. But, during the time-frame from the early 1970's to the late 1970's, a local band promoter would book The Zionsville Theater and put on these small, yet personally intimate, concerts up there. The Zionsville Theater could hold about 250 people and both the atmosphere and the environment was very conducive to the style and type of music that Pat Webb, Bill Wilson, Gandharvas and other local Indy bands would perform.
Since I was highly interested in doing "LIVE" recording, I would lug my 52-pound studio tape recorder up to Zionsville and then figure out on how to record those shows. Sometimes I would use all of my own equipment, some of which I had built myself, to record these shows. Other times, I would figure out on how to connect into the PA system and get some audio feeds to record the shows. In any case……I still have all of these tapes of Pat Webb, Bill Wilson and others that have – NEVER – been heard by anyone else other than ME!!! And, listening to these tapes today in modern times, they – STILL – sound really good!!! (I still have a few reel-to-reel tape decks even in this day of "digital everything"!!!). One thing that does cross my mind whenever I get around to thinking about my recordings of these musical artists is that I would like to share my recordings with the fans and the world before I die and all of these tapes are merely dumped into a landfill somewhere and end up – NEVER – being heard again.
If you would like, you can contact me whenever you have a free moment ( midnight_blue_studios@yahoo.com ) and, if you are interested, I could transfer some bits of my Pat Webb shows over to some MP3 files for you to take a listen to. Maybe you might know of someone there in Indiana (I moved to Maryland in 1983) who would like to collaborate with me to produce a CD of "rare" Pat Webb recordings!!! I am certain that his fans would be "shocked" to learn that such recordings even exist!!!
I am looking forward to your reply.
NOTE: The included URL link is of Bill Wilson at The Zionsville Theater on Dec. 22, 1973. I just happened to have made an MP3 file of this particular song and have it stored in an online storage site of mine. I could do the same with some Pat Webb material.
Regards,
Jerry B. Williams
Audio Engineer / Producer
Midnight Blue Studios
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